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yurchik
07-05-2010, 04:03 PM
hi!!
got my caliper and scale today:D
http://cs288.vkontakte.ru/u33395486/105373285/x_1403d349.jpg
that's what I was able to measure

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ak0b2E_wva3ndFZhblRmTzNJLUg0elN3NDhDUW4wb kE&hl#gid=4

if you know some pens that arent at list please write to me in pm!!

chris
07-05-2010, 04:40 PM
Thanks for this! :D change the title to something professional XP

Ktk
07-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Nice. Maybe you could compile it into a picture so it'd look better (stickling here, great info)

Another thing to note may be maximum diameter of the tip.

neoknux_009
07-05-2010, 08:42 PM
very useful.

rather than a picture..really it should be converted into a spreadsheet.

perhaps include barrels, along with their width too too ;]

thx for all the work you did.

Kirby
07-05-2010, 09:27 PM
Nice work! All that arguing on v3 about the weight difference between needlepoint and signo "you guys are on crack needlepoint is obviously heavier". "No, I weighed them and needlpoint was only 1.4 and signo was 1.8". thank you for clearing this up, that they in fact are the same (within .05 gms.).Try to add Jap Dr. Grip grip and Airfit grip. But really nice work :)

davidguy
07-06-2010, 12:35 AM
:O now we know

blahblahting
07-06-2010, 12:41 AM
airfit is only 4.75? i woulda thought it was OVER NINE THOUSANDDDDDDDD

yurchik
07-06-2010, 12:53 AM
dont think that that photo will be good, because i will update list when i will have new pens. so i must take photo of all stuff again and again?)))
havent full Jap Dr. Grip grip, i can measure cutted grip. i measure airfit grips but lost this values. ball grip is heavier. i will add it soon.

i thought to measure inner and outer diameter of all + measure bodies, it is very big work))

write names of bodies with parameters you want to know, ш will measure it first

ps
thanks for +

Wyvern
07-06-2010, 01:09 AM
thanks!
I've been expecting someone to do this for a long time

and you do know that there are 3 kinds of airfit tips right?

yurchik
07-06-2010, 01:33 AM
yes, there is airfit pencil. i should buy it for test))

Lanaro
07-06-2010, 01:40 AM
Amazing, thanks dude

I also decided to type it up in an excel sheet.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ycfxzimmoyj

RR24
07-06-2010, 06:38 AM
Hello
Thanx for making this
Could u pls weight the tip of an m301 tip?
It's the pencil version of the f301
I'm thinking it could be a sub for metalic gel tip or plastic g3 tip
But I'm not sure if teh weight of it is close or far from the weight of the other tips
I have a bunch of them round
Thank you :)

Hippo2626
07-06-2010, 08:48 AM
Isit possible to add the weight and the spinnnable length of barrels?

yurchik
07-06-2010, 10:46 AM
RR24
sorry i havent it yet

Hippo2626
spinnnable length depends on how you will put caps, so its is different for each spiner

Hippo2626
07-06-2010, 11:21 AM
@yurchik perhaps the maximum spinnable area?

shoeman6
07-06-2010, 11:25 AM
This is great +1 things like mass, weight distrtipution etc. What would e really coll would be to create accurate 3d models that we could use and play with :P. Also if you have more than one you might want to consider takin multiple measurements and averaging it out :3.

yurchik
07-06-2010, 11:35 AM
Hippo2626
this is ok
make it when i'll can

Kirby
07-06-2010, 11:54 AM
@yurchik perhaps the maximum spinnable area?
it depends on caps and everything. An emboss cap may leave more or less spinnable space and an m&m versus a m&m cap. A more reasonable question would be length of barrel.


This is great +1 things like mass, weight distrtipution etc. What would e really coll would be to create accurate 3d models that we could use and play with :P. Also if you have more than one you might want to consider takin multiple measurements and averaging it out :3.
Your asking to much for things that are hard to do and not that important :p Although the last suggestion is reasonable

EDIT: Unless hippo you mean the length of the barrel minus the writing part and back plug? Like just the round smooth circular part?

shoeman6
07-06-2010, 12:23 PM
Kirby it wouldn't be that haRd to do lol. I just don't have the tools/resources. If I have free time next year in tech I'll do a few tips/barrels. Also just being able to label every part would be cool. But could get redundant. And I don't have that many pens, pictures or like accurate sized outlines of the Parts with dimensions would be great.

Kirby
07-06-2010, 12:53 PM
mass: You can eyeball it, Weight Distrubution: throw it up see which side lands down more out of 10 tries :xd: Then you may say "You can eyeball all of them", but things like weight and length are actually necessary to be close to exact. You have good ideas, but they arn't wroth trying.

Cardboard
07-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Wow this thread is useful (: and..for weight distribution u can just use kirby's idea it sounds good to me (:

blahblahting
07-06-2010, 02:03 PM
can you weigh ks online sportys?

yurchik
07-06-2010, 02:23 PM
all
you talk so much that I need an interpreter))))
blahblahting
will have it soon

carbon
07-07-2010, 01:03 AM
do keityo and colortwin caps really measure around 25 mm? are these the ones used for Dr. KT?

edit: got it..i forgot there was two caps on colortwin and keityo

yurchik
07-07-2010, 02:57 AM
now i havent big kt cap so cant tell exactly

Hippo2626
07-07-2010, 03:12 AM
@Kirby that's what I mean.

Tremor
08-07-2010, 04:34 AM
how come Pilot G2 ex was not on the list? it has a good grip with a small metal ring and metal tip... :/

Colin
08-07-2010, 02:34 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/rx7_photos/CIMG4009.jpg
Large CT (well this is M&M) cap
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/rx7_photos/CIMG3976.jpg
Sunburst
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/rx7_photos/CIMG3975.jpg
RSVP cap

yurchik
08-07-2010, 03:57 PM
my scale are better))

EareQ
08-07-2010, 10:52 PM
how about Pilot Hitec c tips.?

Colin
08-08-2010, 12:45 AM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/rx7_photos/Weights/CIMG4011.jpg

exclusive
09-14-2010, 07:42 PM
how about airfit grips from mp,bp,gel?
and airfit tip from mp?

yurchik
09-14-2010, 11:16 PM
havent now airfit tip from mp but grips are almost the same, jell version is a little bigger

hoyeesuan
09-15-2010, 08:29 AM
what is t lenght(in cm) of a reynolds 094 cap?:learn:

SPRiNGFiELD
09-15-2010, 08:32 AM
post in quick modification questions

yurchik
09-15-2010, 11:23 AM
4.6

Twine
09-16-2010, 01:36 AM
OMG, why isn't this stickied!?!?!

This is such a valuable resource! Thanks a lot!

exclusive
09-19-2010, 01:04 PM
ur scale might not be as accurate as u think it is

http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=5775

spinnerc
09-19-2010, 01:48 PM
thanks for this it makes good reference :)

Nachoaddict
09-26-2010, 01:11 AM
yeah I think anyone who is doing measurements needs to check constantly to make sure the calibration of their scales is all right

PSVortex
09-28-2010, 03:33 AM
Does anyone now the weight of Pentel Meteor or Bk83??? :D

yurchik
10-26-2010, 02:37 PM
hi guys!!
help me to make this thread more useful
i am going to make spreadsheet on google docs. only 1 thing that i need from you its list of all pens that can be used in pen modifications (means all famous original pens). in alphabet order or just by company.
and what more i want to ask - better will be make all pens in one list or for 1 company 1 list (means pilot, pentel, zebra....)?

thanks for help

k-ryder
10-27-2010, 03:58 AM
yurchik i think by company order would be easier to find
there's a pen mod list on this board, and also looking at the penwish website and ponkotu's blog, you can get a decent list that covers most of the pens

http://annkou2.blog105.fc2.com/
http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=157
penwish.com

i'm doing this because i'm slightly too lazy to make the list, but kind enough to offer help XD

yurchik
10-27-2010, 12:35 PM
thanks
next week i will post link

yurchik
10-31-2010, 01:11 PM
updates
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ak0b2E_wva3ndFZhblRmTzNJLUg0elN3NDhDUW4wb kE&hl#gid=4

in future will add another pens + pictures

k-ryder
10-31-2010, 10:39 PM
nice work yurchik
if you are going to list every variation of a type of pen (ie. dr grip jap/american/etc) then maybe group them and make them more visible by having the subgroup (ie dr grip) in the first row of column A of each subgroup, then the different types (jap/american/neon) in the next colum
sorry if its a little confusing, here's a visual rep of what i'm thinking

Dr Grip | Japanese .......
_______| American
_______| Neon
HGG | normal
_______| metallic

like so

i think improving visibility would improve it a long way, and i think it'll be a really useful resource

Froggy
11-04-2010, 11:07 AM
Can you also put the following items?:
- KT
- M&M
- G3 (Metal and Plastic)
- Hi-Tec C
- Lakubo
- Signo DX & Broad

Thanks =D
PrinceXD~

Colin
11-24-2010, 11:39 PM
Honestly, I think this thread should be stickied in Pens/pens&modifications section. I think it'll help a lot

sasuak
05-13-2011, 12:26 AM
@yurchik (http://forum.upsb.info/member.php?u=188)i saw now you have a lot of pen, why dont you update this thread? This is very helpful for us i think

Breezy
05-14-2011, 11:38 PM
What's the comparison (high weight length etc) with a Dong A cap and a regular comssa cap?

hopman
05-22-2011, 04:58 PM
nice work very helpful

trust-no-one
06-18-2011, 09:15 PM
yurchik

Would you be interested in combining this with my mod database (there is a link in my sig)? I think it has a fair selection of mods, but the tip, grip, cap sections are a bit thin.... I don't have callipers or scales that are accurate to less than a gram, so these sections are a bit thin... I would also be interested in adding sections on back plugs and bodys..... Please PM me if you are interested, I think it would be awesome!

tno

MickChickenn
06-18-2011, 11:11 PM
very helpful. thanks for the chart.

Breezy
06-19-2011, 11:01 AM
What Mikchiken said